Transcript: Mark Meadows on “Face the Nation,” September 27, 2020


The next is a transcript of an interview with White Home chief of workers Mark Meadows that aired Sunday, September 27, 2020, on “Face the Nation.”

MARGARET BRENNAN: We start this morning with White Home chief of workers Mark Meadows, who joins us from Washington. Good morning to you.

WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS: Good morning. Nice to be with you.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Have Republican leaders assured you they will ship on that timeline?

MEADOWS: Effectively, clearly, we have been in conversations with Chief McConnell, with Chairman Graham, he’s going to place forth a fairly aggressive schedule for hearings and markups that we imagine will occur within the center a part of October. And if all goes nicely, then definitely a- a vote on the ground someday earlier than the election. However that is going to be as much as Chief McConnell and the crew and ensuring that every one the senators are nicely knowledgeable of the decide’s credentials, that are impeccable. However we’re- we’re optimistic that we’ll be ready. We’ll begin delivering the knowledge to the senators tomorrow after which we’ll be on Capitol Hill as early as Tuesday.

MARGARET BRENNAN: As early as Tuesday. Sir, once I have a look at a few of the knowledge proper now by way of the place the nation is with the coronavirus, there are 4 US states, together with Wisconsin, which have had document one-day will increase. We’re going into chilly climate. We’re headed in the direction of Election Day. The place’s the an infection charge going to be?

MEADOWS: Effectively, it is exhausting to inform the place the an infection charge goes to be. However what I can let you know is the progress with vaccines has simply been outstanding. We have had a- numerous conversations with not solely the FDA and people which might be concerned in ensuring that any vaccine is- is totally vetted and secure. However moreover, a few of the scientific trials are within the very late levels of growth. 


MEADOWS: So we’re optimistic that what we’ll be capable of do is hopefully begin taking join these vaccines. And so whilst we face this unknown virus that got here to us from China, we’re making an attempt to make it possible for we’re ready to do all we will to mitigate the- the troublesome circumstances that quite a lot of Individuals are going through.

MARGARET BRENNAN: However the predictions will not be that you can have a vaccine by Election Day, and it’s related by way of the an infection charge as a result of individuals must believe to have the ability to exit and go to the polls. In the event you have a look at knowledge from AEI, hospitalizations are now not declining. The truth is, they could be rising. It would not appear to be that is beneath management.

MEADOWS: Effectively, the hospitalization charge is- for those who’ll have a look at that knowledge, whether or not it is from AEI or wherever else, the hospitalization charge really has been a- a excellent news story over the past a number of months. To counsel that it’s spiking up will not be correct.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I mentioned rising. 

MEADOWS: However I can- but- but- however I can let you know that, nicely, you already know, one or two will increase in sure states, definitely we’ll proceed to struggle this as these embers pop up in- in areas. However we’re having ongoing discussions with our governors in mitigation danger. There will likely be an announcement on Monday because it appears to be like at extra testing that the federal authorities will likely be offering to all of the governors. And in order the president makes that announcement, I believe that will likely be an encouragement so that everyone can return to highschool or again to work and really feel like they will do this in a secure method.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You talked a couple of vaccine. The FDA is meant to be issuing these stricter pointers. We have been informed to count on that. 

MEADOWS: Proper.

MARGARET BRENNAN: However you then reportedly known as the FDA commissioner and actually challenged him on making an attempt to justify doing that.

MEADOWS: Effectively–

MARGARET BRENNAN: You are not a health care provider. Why insert your self politically into this which–

MEADOWS: Effectively–

MARGARET BRENNAN: –which feeds these considerations about interference?

MEADOWS: So, MARGARET, clearly your producer did not do an excellent job of informing you of precisely what I’ve achieved. What we even have is new steerage that is popping out. My query is, why would that new steerage come out after we have already spent 30 billion {dollars} in doing that? And my problem to the FDA is simply ensure that it is based mostly on science- science and actual numbers. And in order we have a look at that, we’re making superb progress–

MARGARET BRENNAN: Why would the FDA not be basing it on science and actual numbers? Why would you assume that they are doing that?

MEADOWS: Effectively, why would you assume that we would want new steerage after we have developed vaccines and medicines for- for many years after which rapidly we’re–

MARGARET BRENNAN: The FDA mentioned they had been going to. 

MEADOWS: –going to alter one thing in the- within the final two weeks? The query is why, MARGARET? I imply, why would we do this? I would additionally have a look at this. And as we obtained into that dialogue, here is one of many nice issues that we’re taking a look at. If we’re taking a look at tens of 1000’s of individuals which might be in these scientific trials, we need to make it possible for it is secure. The Part 1, Part 2 indicated that- that these vaccines which might be going by are secure. We’re making an attempt to make it possible for the steerage we give will not be a- a inhibitor to getting issues out fast–


MEADOWS: –but it additionally would not detract from it. So I am optimistic that that steerage will come out based mostly on good science- science and in the end our FDA pointers to make it possible for all individuals who take a vaccine can do this with some form of assurance that the method is meted out correctly.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You had been on one other present on this community earlier this week, and also you raised questions concerning the competence of the present FBI director Chris Wray after he testified that there was no proof of voter fraud in a significant election by mail or in any other case. Is the president assured in Director Wray’s management?

MEADOWS: Effectively, I believe my- my reference to that individual level mentioned that he could not discover emails on the FBI. And so to opine on whether or not we have now large scale fraud or not, is- will not be him that is with boots on the bottom. , and I do know that there is really an investigation that the Division of Justice has initiated–


MEADOWS: –with some ballots being thrown at a wastepaper basket. What we need to ensure that of is that each vote counts.

MARGARET BRENNAN: 9 ballots in Pennsylvania. 

MEADOWS: However- but-  9 ballots, however that is what we discovered. And so we have to make it possible for we examine it. Nevertheless it’s not simply the 9 ballots in Pennsylvania. It is duplicate ballots in different states.


MEADOWS: And so to counsel that- that there’s a course of that is stuffed with integrity is- is making an attempt to make a verdict earlier than you’ve got really heard the case. And that is my- my downside with Director Wray. They should examine it and ensure that- that the voting populace makes positive that their–

MARGARET BRENNAN: Are you assured in him?

MEADOWS: –vote counts and nobody else’s does.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Is the president assured in him?

MEADOWS: I encourage your pardon? 

MARGARET BRENNAN: Is the president assured in him?

MEADOWS: Effectively, I imply, as we have a look at this, we need to ensure that he is doing his job. There are totally different levels of confidence in several cupboard members. And positively he is nonetheless there. The- the minute that the president loses confidence in any of his cupboard members, he’ll- they serve at his pleasure, and he will definitely have a look at changing them.

MARGARET BRENNAN: CBS estimates that at the very least 80 million Individuals are going to vote by mail. That is what they plan to do. However the president mentioned final evening the entire poll rip-off goes to trigger quite a lot of issues for this nation.


MARGARET BRENNAN: Why is he publicly undermining confidence in that?

MEADOWS: Effectively, I do not know that he is publicly undermining confidence as a lot as he is stating the information. We have states that are–

MARGARET BRENNAN: He mentioned it is a rip-off. 

MEADOWS: Effectively we have got states that really are doing issues that you’d qualify as a rip-off if you begin to take a look at permitting mail-in ballots to return in seven, 9 days after November third, altering the legal guidelines by judges that really will not be legislators. I- I believe that that is an actual downside. And so you may name it what you’ll, however what you may name it’s uncommon and distinctive. And- and we have to make it possible for what we do is- is defend the poll process–


MEADOWS: –to make it possible for we’re not making a state of affairs that’s ripe with fraud. And he is proper to- to focus on it. The actual fact that we’re speaking about it this morning–


MEADOWS: –is an excellent factor that hopefully all states will have a look at ensuring that they ensure that that–


 MEADOWS: –that poll is sacred.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure. And it’s as much as the states to find out these. We’ll discuss that forward on this system. Thanks, Chief.

MEADOWS: Positive.


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